New: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel for PC Gaming

Today marks the announcement of the new Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, which will be replacing the venerable G25 Racing Wheel. Though I’ve been seeing unofficial reports about a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel floating around the Internet since January, I’m now able to officially confirm the existence of this new racing wheel for PC and PS3. In designing it, our primary goal was to improve upon the already-great G25, focusing particularly on the number of buttons on the wheel, the feeling of the shifter module, and the sound and feel of the force feedback transmission.

G27 Racing Wheel
The most significant improvement is the introduction of a helical gear system to the force feedback transmission. As with the G25, the G27 features a dual-motor, single-reduction force feedback transmission supported by two sets of steel ball bearings. Instead of straight-cut (or “spur”) gears, however, we’ve developed the first force-feedback transmission for racing wheels featuring diagonal-cut (“helical”) gears. As most racing fans know, spur gears produce significantly more noise than helical gears. This is due to vibration that is created as the teeth engage and disengage quickly. Helical gears mesh much more gradually, reducing the amount of vibration experienced by each tooth and significantly reducing the noise generated. This requires that the gear and pinion system be engineered to significantly higher tolerances than a standard spur gear setup, and it results in a wheel that produces the same amount of force feedback torque as the G25 with a significant reduction in noise and improvement in turning smoothness as well.

The wheel of the G27 is 11” in diameter and is wrapped in real leather. Its spokes are made of brushed stainless steel, and it features six buttons and two stainless steel shifter paddles. The wheel also features ten LEDs just above the center hub (two red, four yellow, and four green). These LEDs can be programmed by games to act as an RPM gauge or as shift indicators. The LED SDK has been provided to several developers already, and a few titles (including the trial version of rFactor that ships with the wheel) will support the LED panel as soon as the wheel is installed.

As with the G25, the G27’s shifter features eight buttons and an eight-way D-pad. It also has two clamps with knobs that can be pushed down and recessed after the clamps are tight, and an anti-tip screw. Additionally, its internals have been redesigned to have a greater centering force and a more positive feeling for each of the gear engagement positions, so shifting by feel is significantly improved.

The pedals remain largely unchanged, with steel arms and frames and brushed stainless-steel faces, but do feature two important improvements:

1. The brake and clutch pedal standoffs have been increased in height by approximately 13 mm, so that their faces are closer to the user than that of the throttle pedal.

2. The pedal arms have had four extra holes drilled in them so that the pedal faces can adjust to the left or the right with the help of a 2.5 mm hex wrench.

Together, these two features make heel-and-toe braking significantly easier than on the G25, and give serious racers much more control over how the wheel fits their setup and racing needs.

Overall I’m pretty excited about this new wheel, as it directly addresses a number of the concerns that people have expressed to me about the G25 over the years. And, now that I can finally talk about it with the public, I’m also very interested in hearing what you think. Post a comment and let me know!

Quick Overview of differences from G25:

  • Buttons on wheel face: G25 has two, G27 has six
  • Force feedback transmission: G25 features straight-cut (spur) gears, G27 features diagonal-cut (helical) gears
  • Pedals: G27 features taller standoffs for clutch and brake pedals, as well as horizontal adjustability, making customizability and heel-toe downshifting easier
  • Shifter: G27 features stiffer centering spring and more positive gear engagement feeling, improving the overall feel of the shifter.
  • RPM/Shift Indicator LEDs: G27 features 10 LEDs that can be used by game developers to indicate RPM, redline, or to indicate the user should shift gears.

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153 comments

  • Very nice, though I would’ve hoped for a wireless system. I have the G25 and I find I don’t use it as much as I’d like because of all the cables, it just takes too much time to set it up every time I wanna play, and I don’t have the luxury of having a separate gameroom where I can have it permanently setup.

  • wow :) all i ever wanted for the current version. i hope the shifter has a more solid feel now ;)
    and especially the buttons on the wheel are important for light, nitro, look left/reight and other things. thats what i missed the most.
    what i would like to see is a upgrade program for current g25 users like me :D i would love to play gran turismo 5 with this in the future :)

  • Would love to try it out to see and feel the new improvements. No XBox 360 support is defiantly holding me back from upgrading my current G25. I currently have the XBox steering wheel and i don’t need to get another one.

    All in all, unless i’m able to try it out their just isn’t enough to justify spending another $300 for another wheel.

  • Hi! and great job with the new wheel. Looks & sounds promising. One question; can the shifter still be changed to the “sequential” mode?

  • What about sequential shifting?. Is it possible to reconfigure shifter to address that configuration?. There are games that include cars with that type of shift.

    Congratulations it’s a very good product following what G25 was for racing games.

  • Hey great news. I was not considering to get one over my G25, but the new changes have really made it tempting to upgrade. No mention here of the really fantastic seqential mode and H-gate mode adjustability? Can you select sequential and H-gated mode as the G25 allows? If so how? The old left/right silver knob mode selector and light indicator seems to be gone.
    Cheers for the news.

    • Hi Timppaq, Infernoo and JasonJ,

      The components that made the switch possible also contributed to the way that the G25\’s shifter felt. In order to improve the feeling of the shifter, we had to remove the sequential mode hardware.

      Best, Chris

  • Wow ! so excited for this.

    I was gonna buy the G25 for GT5 this year, but now i am definitely getting this instead.

  • I have been closely monitoring the rumours about the G27 for a while now. And i have to say, what i’m reading on this page, exceeds my expectations. I don’t have a G25, but i was looking for a Force Feedback steering wheel to buy.
    I wanted to get the best i could find. Because of all the rumours about the G27, i decided to wait and see what it has to offer.
    I could tell you now, It looks like it was worth the wait, I am definitely going to buy this wheel for my PC.

    It sounds like an experience unmatched by any other wheel on the market today and a worthy successor to the G25. Well done!

  • I would like to add that I am really impressed that Logitech was able to keep the price the same as the G25. However I live in the Netherlands… and eventhough in the U.S. the price is 300 dollars… converted the price in the Netherlands is almost 500 dollars.
    I guess i just have to save some more money if that is the final price.

  • i just wanted to ask if anybody knows if this wheel will have vibration like the new gran turismo wheel dual force GT?

  • Mike said: i just wanted to ask if anybody knows if this wheel will have vibration like the new gran turismo wheel dual force GT?

    Yes sir, this one has a great Force Feedback vibration built into it as far as i have heard and read. Most Force Feedback wheels are pretty noisy though, but not this one, they used a “Helical Gear System” to make it as silent as a Force Feedback wheel could be.
    They even fixed the “Center Point” – dead zone problem that the predecessor (the G25) had. So the Force Feedback vibration works in whatever position the wheel is in!

  • Any idea to the release date?
    What about Canada? But for some odd reason the Canadians always get the short end of the stick from Logitech.

    • Hi Jay,

      We expect the Logitech G27 to be available online and in some retail stores in Canada around mid-October.

      Best, Chris

  • The lack of the sequential shifter will not keep me from purchasing, but it’s still weird that logitech would remove a feature (that people like) on the ‘upgrade’ to the G25.
    The thing that I’m most disappointed about is that it isn’t wireless. Perhaps a bluetooth attachment in the future?
    Also, compatible with your PC but not with Microsoft Xbox? Always teasing us gamers with your commitment contracts and such. We’re looking forward to a day where we can have our games and eat them too. You know what I mean.

  • Will the G27 be compatible with current games out there such as GTR Evolution or Dirt 1?

    How do game companies do this; offer a patch, or do we run the game & wheel as a G25?

    I’m glad I waited- almost bought a G25 3 weeks ago…

  • Hi again,

    Fair enough with the shifter, if it really is that much better now. Then, if you’d want to drive with the seq shifter (stick), can I use the G25 shifter unit with the G27 wheel & pedals? and will it work just normally as it would with the G25.

  • Let my just put some numbers up here again, and ask you why your marketing thinks its better to support PS3 and PC instead og the xbox.

    Xbox 360: Worldwide: 30.20 million (as of March 31, 2009)
    PS3 Worldwide: 24.6 million (as of August 5, 2009)

    Please note the gap between the dates.

    Seems, you are throwing away ATLEAST 6 MILLION POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS?

    • Hello Xbox drivers,
      While we understand many of our customers wish for us to make such a wheel, we are not licensed by Microsoft to manufacture force feedback wheels for Xbox 360 at this time.

      -Chris

    • Hi Timppaq and Jo,

      The G25 shifter does not work on the G27, but it won\’t hurt it if you plug it in.

      Best, Chris

  • whats up with the price difference
    299 dollars in the usa and 349 euros in ireland
    this is whats listed on yer website

    299 dollars converts to 211 euros in real life ??
    very dissapointed with this price in ireland

  • not alone that but the uk website is looking for the equivalent of 385 euro (GBP 329)
    which is 545 dollars

  • The lack of sequential shifting removes the ability of assigning the shifter as a handbrake in Richard Burns Rally (RBR) or any other sim where a handbrake is useful. Doh!

    What’s with the weird shaped buttons on the wheel? They look too fussy to be useful. You should have just added more of the standard round buttons from the G25 (and shifter).

    I wonder if the lack of wireless is because it might have introduced input lag and caused the wheel to be somewhat less responsive…

    In the end, I’m sticking with my trusty G25 as it’s the best wheel for my needs.

    MarkT

  • To those of you asking for 360 support:

    That would raise the cost of the wheel to pay for MS’s license, where Sony doesn’t charge a cent since PS3 supports any standard USB controller.

    They don’t want to add a cost for a feature 2/3s of the userbase wouldn’t use.

  • Wow.. The G25 is awesome, it was the first wheel to convince me to upgrade from the original Formula Force (belt drive wheel). And now the G27 fixes the only complaint I had with the G25 (the loud gear noise). The people behind this wheel deserve a big applause, it’s amazing that Logitech puts so much time, effort and attention to detail in to a device that can’t have a very large market. Excellent work guys, the G27 is a going on my XMas list for sure!

  • Very impressive, my major concern was the H box needed to be stiffer & more buttons on the wheel which you guys have clearly addressed, also what would be good if logitech could make an E brake, maybe this could be made separately using a USB cable with some kind of mounting bracket so we could mount these onto our cockpits.

  • I’ve raced on a near daily basis with a Logitech G25 since it originally hit the market and been very happy and successful with it. The wheel is as tight and solid today as it was the day I received it. It is incredibly well built, especially for a mass produced retail product.

    The G25 was a major upgrade over the Red Momo I had used before that. So I’m a pretty big fan of Logitech products and have been anxiously anticipating the release of the G27 since the day its existence was first rumored, some 6 months ago.

    My wish list included better force feedback and elimination of the dead spot on-center, which has absolutely driven me crazy with the G25, more buttons on the wheel, and a more rugged “H” shifter.

    Based on your announcement and a review I just watched on SRT, it appears as though you’ve addressed all of these issues and then some. Can’t wait until it ships. Thanks!

  • Too bad is not compatible with the Xbox360. Such a waste, to have that beautiful wheel and not been able to play because of lack of compatibility. Microsoft probably wants us to play with their toy-wheels which are just horrible.

  • Well, like quite a few people here i was looking to upgrade. My current momo racing wheel did its job well over the years but now i thought it’d be good to upgrade to G25. I did some research and found about about G27 and its looks and sounds really amazing.
    Seems like Logitech guys did it again and brought us another excellent piece of kit. I cannot wait for it to come on sale

  • Chris…

    There seems to be some confusion as to whether you have fixed the G25′s on-center dead spot with the G27. According to you and the SimRacingTonight review, this has been fixed. But another review from SimHQ (http://www.simhq.com/_technology2/technology_153a.html) claims that you have not fixed it. This is a make or break issue for me. Could you please address these concerns. Thanks.

    • Steve,
      In order to prevent the wheel from oscillating left-to-right uncontrollably, we must leave an area in the middle of its rotation where there is little to no force feedback. As our wheels have gotten smoother and required less force to rotate, this has become a greater challenge. With the G27, we have tried to make that area as small as possible, but it is not possible to remove it entirely without adding additional drag or friction back into the system.

      The review you are referencing on SimHQ.com found that in Race07 the forces ramp up significantly after a short turn of the wheel, giving the G27 the appearance of a larger \”dead zone\” area in that game than his G25. My take on the disparity between the two reviews is that what you see is a difference in force feedback implementations between RaceOn (review title for SRT) and Race07 (one of the review titles, and the referenced review title for this issue for SimHQ) when the G27 is connected.

      -Chris

  • It’s worth mentioning that the Porsche 911 Turbo S (due at the end of September – date was pushed back so only time will tell) is compatible with PC, PS3 and Xbox 360. Whether Logitech didn’t want to pay licensing fees or whether Microsoft had an agreement with Fanatec is anybody’s guess (Logitech seems to be a bit tight lipped about the subject, only mentioning that they don’t have the licensing rights), but there are higher-end wheels out there not being produced by Microsoft that do work with Xbox 360.

    I had suspected Logitech would offer a Xbox 360 wheel by now (I assumed this would be the one), but it doesn’t seem so likely that they’d announce a new wheel but wouldn’t announce Xbox 360 support, so perhaps it just isn’t meant to be.

  • Hi, I’m still using the RED MOMO, but would not buy a G25 due to the lack of steering wheel buttons.

    I’m a pretty serious Sim racer, with a NIXIM race-craft etc. and I cannot put enough emphasis on Pedals, shifters, wheel buttons Etc (buttons for push to talk, Brake Bias +/-, Pit in/out, adjust fuel +/- and wing before pitting etc)

    You have made this wheel more appealing to me, but more functionality would be great.

    Your GAME PANEL from the G15 Keyboard, 8-12 buttons with enough room to label them, and if you made the wheel with additional ports you could manufacture and sell further accessories like having an option to purchase a second shifter for Sequential and a handbrake etc. (make your own port like Sony have with there DM Port to stop people exploiting them)

    Finally there are enough G25 Mods all over Race Sim Central, iracing, LFS forums to give you an idea of what people in the Sim Community would like.

    Best Regards
    Paul

  • Please logitech incorporate analouge paddles on the back of the wheel , I am disabled and have no use of my legs. At the moment I am stuck using and old grand turismo 3 driving force blue wheel which is doing the job but hardly ideal
    Pleeeeeese Logitech consider this option
    Thanks

  • Hi would you guys be able to give me a list of games the Leds work on or will the be patchs released this is a big thing 4 me the leds as i have always wanted a will the current racing game i play most is rFactor will there be a patch or software or will it automatically work cheers matt

  • ChrisD brought up a very important point. Would love to see such wheel. Accordingly, the analogue paddles should be added, not replacing the prresent ones. This way those could be mapped maybe to look left / right, but sensing the amount of head turning, if one wishes so.

  • I got the GT4 pack with the Logitech Driving Force wheel for PS2 which I really enjoy and works great on PS3 too. I am considering the upgrade to the G27 when its released but I do not have any furniture to clamp a wheel onto (my lounge room is set up for comfort). The GT4 pack came with a lap attachment that the steering wheel clamps onto and sits comfortably on my knee. Can the G27 clamp onto the same lap attachment? I don’t need to be able to use a stick shift and would be happy with the paddle shift on the wheel, so will teh G27 work without the stick shift module (which looks to me to be a seperate item, not attachable to the wheel item) at all? Or are the clamps on the G27 diffferent from the Driving Force and not fit at all to the lap attachment? Non of my local stores will even take a G25 out of the box for me to measure the clamp spacing, so I’ probably won’t get to measure the G27 when its in store either to find out. Cheers.

  • Was wondering if my stands will work the same for the G27 as the G25. Where the bolt holes changed in the bottom of pedals and shifter? Wheel clamp changed? Thanks.

  • why is the g25 £329.99 in UK but only $299.99 in USA? surely it should be cheaper in england with exchange rates ?

  • Can someone please clue me in to the actual release date for the G-27, I have placed a pre-order in on the wheel and I would like atleast some insight as to when my card will be charged. I think its close enough now to give an actual date atleast to the pre-order customers in an email or something. I have been reading for about 2 weeks now and can’t find anything logitech is not saying a word, It just would be really nice to know when the card is gonna be charged instead of a un-expected date like sometime in September or sometime in October.

    • Hi Brian,

      The Logitech G27 wheel is expected to be available at the end of September or early October in the U.S. and Europe.

      Best, Chris

  • And this paul guy who says he still uses a Red Momo over a g-25 due to its lack of buttons hes crazy. I have had the g-25 since its release and it recently broke mostly my fault nothing faulty on the product and now I have been forced to resort to a red momo which doesn’t compare to a g-25 not even in the same league, and it has less buttons than that of the g-25 it only has 6. If you haven’t noticed there are more buttons on the shifter and they can be used just like you are saying in your post for every adjustment you need. If any of you are considering a upgrade from momo to g-25 its a deffinate improvement and Id have to think that this g-27 will only be even better.

  • It’s possible that Logitech in the future could create a sequential shifter module sold separately?

  • I would give anything to know an actual release date, I guess we just know what that date is when it shows up at my door, I can see you guys point on the sequential shifter even though on the PC sims I do H-pattern is mostly used I have had really no issues with the old one it is somewhat slower on shit time compared to say paddles or even sequential. I had great success with the G-25 on Stock Car game I hope that the G-27 is more is better.

    • Hi Eric,

      The buttons on all our PC game controllers are typically able to be configured to do whatever in-game action the game developer or the user desires. Default assignments for the buttons vary from game to game, and it is usually possible to change these assignments from within the game if you\’d prefer they do something different. If it is not possible to do so within the game, you can use the included Profiler software to map the buttons to whatever function you like.

      -Chris

  • I find it kinda odd that no one here at logitech wants to give a release date I mean you got people pre-ordered about to spend over 300$’s with you and no insight as to when we will be charged for, I may very pleased with the product but I wont be very pleased with the way this is handled. Its amazing that amazon has an actual ship date but logitech has nothing can someone answer me as to why that Is? I dont believe its too much to ask to find out when yall plan on shiping this wheel. Its close whats the big secret now? Everyone knows its coming out who are we hiding it from? Other than customers who want to buy a product I can’t see any reason why we can’t just get a answer to this question.

    • Hi Brian,

      No secret about the availability date — we released that information on our press page. We expect to be shipping the G27 later this month, but we can\’t provide an exact date until the units arrive in our warehouse.

      -Chris

  • Hi there. I use an Obutto oZone gaming chair with my G25. Is the mounting system the same or have some changes been made? Thanks for all the great products.

  • Hello, is the new wheel will have the option to order it from out side of the US?
    (like to israel)

    sorry for the bad english i’m sure you understand me. THANKS!

  • Hi. Very Excited looks great On my third g25 now keep wearing them out lol. Cant wait for an upgrade. Does it still support sequential on the shifter still ? Or only on paddles now ?
    I noticed the knob on the shifter has been removed.

    THANKS A LOT.

  • Hi again . Sorry didnt read earlyer comments. Not having sequential shifting in the shifter is a major bummer. Sequential with a clutch is pretty badass. Im really gonna miss it.

    PLEASE tell me i can plug in my g25 shifter an it will register ? or am I Dreaming.

    You should make add ons for it. An E-Brake Handel and Sequential Shifter options would be amazing. Then i could stop dreaming about a FREX wheel.

  • Hi Chris.

    Why G27 does not appear in the Brazilian site? I’m a Brazilian and I want to buy one.
    Many Brazilians have the G25 and want to switch to G27.

    Drilling continues in the pattern CGT?

    Thanks.

    • Hi Gabriel,

      I’m not sure when it will be available in Brazil, but you might want to see if you can order it on Amazon and have it shipped to you.

      The drilling pattern for the G27\’s hard points is the same as the G25\’s.

      -Chris

  • Hello Chris.

    Could be the G27 pedals connected and used in a G25?.

    Other wheels with license to use the G25 pedals (as Fanatec Wheels) could use the G27 pedals also?.

    Thanks.

    • Hi rebla47,

      The G25 and G27 pedals are interchangeable. There are no third-party pedals licensed for use with any Logitech racing wheel.

      -Chris

  • Hi Chris,

    Hi i’m from Singapore(Asia) and i’m asking if know know like when will G27 out in Asia ?

    Thank You

    Ben

  • Hey Chris,

    one of the all time asks from sim racers have been, progressive resistance on the brake pedal, does G27 address this? This would be very important for a lot of people, and usually we have mod our wheels to do this.

    Thanks

  • Just watched inside sim racing and they show the wheek making a terrible noise. This cant be what the final product is like or that would be very badly recieved and reviewed. Could you please confirm if this noise is inherent in the design? I hope its a defective unit otherwise being quieter but then having an awful vibrating noise which sounds like the wheel is broken would not be an improvment over the g25 more like a step backwards and would be bad for sales.

  • John (and other sequential shift users),
    1) If you’re asking if your G25 shifter works on your new G27, the answer’s YES – but not in the way you’re thinking of. You will have to plug in both your G25 and G27 systems in 2 separate USB ports- G25 wheel and G25 shifter (forget the G25 Pedals), G27 wheel and G27 Pedals. I never used this combination in racing sims but I saw this possible on an F1 sim (forgot the name) but also used the combination of 1 joystick and 1 wheel’s pedals for piloting a helicopter – so it’s possible.
    2) If you don’t have the G25 shifter, you’ll have to buy the cheapest joystick (or something similar – a stick which moves up and down), program the deadzone so that you won’t shift by mistake and voila! Again it’s the principle of the first situation – using 2 controllers in a game – but I really think it should work.
    Hope it helps!
    Cheers,
    Ionut

  • Still wondering if the g25 shifter will work with the g27 wheel. Someone else is thinking the same thing I am.

    Also now 9/18 and still no ship date on the pre orders?

  • Hi again So what you are saying is no i cant simply plug in the G25 shifter into the G27 shifter port. I have to use pieces of both wheel set to get the results i want. Do i have it right? PLEASE RESPOND :)

    If so I cant imagine my ps3 being able to resister two wheels. Of course on PC you can do anything but what about Gran Turismo. It seems you guy are going two steps forward and one step back . But at least your going somewhere. Make the ultimate wheel if it costs more money so what its amazing what you guys can do for 350$ think about what 500-1000$ would get me.

    PS Is it logitech or microsoft the prevents your wheels from working on Xbox always wondered why.

    Keep Making Kick Ass Shit

  • Yes John, you have it right. Chris said it clear – shifters cannot be swapped. The only solution is to do what I explained above. Sorry I don’t know about PS .. I only have my PC to play on.
    As any product of any kind, it’s not perfect and.
    I’m sure that when first building the G25 they had all their designers think about what to include on it. I’m pretty sure that on that list there were many many attractive features but.. if they’d have had ALL of them included in the G25, they wouldn’t have a G27 at a higher price to launch now. At least that’s what I think.
    I’m also waiting for it to launch and looking forward to play with it :)

  • Hey Chris,

    When will you guys come out with a good wheel for the 360, Whats the deal there? Agree to only make the goods for Sony? Is there anything coming to the 360 that compares to the g25 or g27?

  • Yea I agree here it is the 21st Logitech saying nothing about a release date and act like they dont know have to wait for it to get to their warehouse is what i was told??????? But yet amazon.com and several other sites CLEARLY state that it WILL SHIP ON OCT 1st.. I for one may surely be happy with my purchase but what a poorly handled ORDER no insight no word no nothing only 10 days away and they can’t tell us I am just assuming OCT 1st cause everyone else seems to know except the idiots who ordered here of this site there is no feedback what so ever. I find it very strange that other sites can offer a day only problem is they want 10$ more I guess thats what the 10$ goes towards is support.

  • I am excited to see what a good product they have put out I ve used many wheels over the years and besides an ECCI wheel the g-25 is the best bang for your buck no doubt. Surely the G-27 is only a slight step forward which would be great in my eyes. I think everybody will enjoy it besides the people upset with the shifter which they improved it in my eyes cause I never used sequential dont play those types of games I do stock car sims so H-pattern is all I know.. But theres always the niffty paddle shiffters. I hope all of who pre-ordered will be pleased that we waited for something just a bit different but hopefully a bit better.

  • 0-60 has teamed up with Electronic Arts to give you downloadable instructions on how to build a retro arcade for the new Need For Speed: SHIFT or whichever racing game you prefer. The instructions were all CAD designed and there is everything from material list to painting to final assembly laid out clear and concise so that anyone can make one.

    There is also a minisite http://www.0-60mag.com/needforspeedshift/# with directions, automotive personalities talking about the game and how it was designed and how it helps some of them when they aren’t on the track. There is also a giveaway that includes the Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, a Samsung 40″ LCD TV and a Sony PS3 Slim.

    We decided to use the G27 Racing Wheel because being an upgrade from the G25, we knew it would be the best choice for a racing wheel for our setup.

    Hope you enjoy!

  • The clutch actualy works? Or its just an empty pedal that even you don’t press it ,it will still shift In manual mode in the game.

  • Why does the G27 pedals still use mechanical potmeters? I know they are cheap and calibration is trivial but: they wear down after about a year or two, rendering the controller virtually useless.

    Why doesn’t Logitech use high quality components where they really matter?

    Hall sensors are the way to go! And if Hall sensors are considered too expensive, then why not use ‘optical potmeters’? A combination of LED, LDR and linear polarizers can do the job easily. And with a proper setup calibration is easy as well.

    Cheers,

    Tokin

    PS: Weren’t Hall sensors – or at least magnetic sensors (MDR?) – used in the old Logitech Wingman Interceptor? THAT was a fantastic joystick!!! Too bad it was discontinued and usage under XP (let alone a more recent OS) is problematic/impossible.

  • Yea the clutch works, it worked on the G-25 I guess I will start answering for them since they dont answer they should just put me on their payroll.. Things seem to be handled very poorly on this site and even over the phone I have called with specific questions and they all act like its something built in Area 51 and cant even talk about it.

  • “Hi rebla47,

    The G25 and G27 pedals are interchangeable. There are no third-party pedals licensed for use with any Logitech racing wheel.

    -Chris”

    Dear Chris:

    That wasn´t I was asking you: I asked you if other wheels with license to use Logitech G25 pedals (Fanatec, ECCI, VPP… ) are able to connect the G27 pedals to their wheels (If you say they are interchangeable, I suposse the response is “yes”).

    Regards.

  • So … since there’s been no new comments for more than a week, I’m presuming that everyone everywhere in the world EXCEPT ME has already got their G27′s. Or maybe everyone has given up. Or maybe everyone is more patient than me.

  • I’m kind of confused and I wondered about the shifter on the G27. The G25 has the option to go up and down or the ladder function and I looked every where for a description or something to prove the G27 if not has the “ladder” function. Please help I am in the the decision what to get so far I’m leaning toward the G25.

    • Hi Topthis,

      In order to improve the feeling of the six-speed mode, it was necessary to remove sequential mode from the shifter.

      -Chris

  • Hi. I have read the release date for the g27 was the end of September. Now that we are a few days into October, I am wondering if there is an update one the expected due date. I am reluctant to preorder if there is no accurate information on when I will get it. Truth be told I would rather buy it from a retailer. Any thoughts?

    • Hi Joe R,

      G27s started shipping to retailers and distributors last week, so you could start seeing them in Best Buy as early as this week.

      -Chris

  • i ordered this way back long ago… still waiting for logitech itself to release it.. any idea when? i dont want to go thruogh the hassle of canceling my order and ordering it from a different retailer… i udnerstand that its a ship only to america thing.. but i live in america……. any info >_>?

  • Yea i know they did but what about logitech themselves? website still says PRE order. and i already did that a while ago.. any clue when logitech themselves will begin shipping?

    • Hi again, Jesse,

      The best estimate I can provide right now is that Logitech.com will have G27s on October 19 or 20. The initial shipment of G27s went to Best Buy, so Logitech.com will be supplied with the second shipment.

      Thanks for your patience,
      Chris

  • Hi Chris
    i saw your respon to Joe R above, but does it mean you guys have shipped it to Best Buys and other retalers in Canada?

  • Chris,

    I’m also wondering when these will become available in Canada. I’ve got a cool review lined up for the G27 where I want to see if it’s possible to learn how to drive a standard car on the Logitech setup and then jump into a real car with no real-world practice and see what happens.

    But long story short, when will we see these cropping up in Canada?

  • Hey all,

    I called Best buy to get an estimate and they have already received them. HOWEVER Three out of four in my area of Massachusetts, USA have already SOLD OUT. I was able to get the last one in Saugus. The earliest time they would be restocked was two weeks so I drove down and got it.

    So get’em while they last or they may end up getting back ordered.

  • I believe I’m going to buy the G27 first of all the sequential shifter sounds awesome and the normal $90 to $110 wheel like the Driving Force Gt and Driving Force wheels felt amazing when I was 10 or 11 (I’m 12 XD). So at my understandings I believe going with the G25 (still expensive) is perfect for me and I still have to wait till October 29th for me Birthday. The G27 sounds tweaked for $100 more and It is just to much for a few tweaks of the wheel and losing a huge feature in the shifting.

  • Vincent – The company in Montreal that I pre-ordered one from has told me they will have stock on Oct. 28th. I would imagine this would be the case for the rest of Canada too, although I hope it’s not, I’ll grab one from anywhere else and cancel my order if it means getting it earlier.

  • Is this true that Logitech will meake a Gran Turismo version of the G27 ??
    Maybe when GT5 will be released ?

    Can you confirm me this? so I will buy that version.

    • Hi Gee,

      Unfortunately, I’m not at liberty to reveal information about our future plans with regard to products.

      -Chris

  • is it possible to purchase the Sparco gran turismo racing cockpit with steering wheel as a package? if not where am i able to buy the cockpit?

    • Hi GODZILLA,

      The Logicool PlayStation Sparco Kit (LPSK) was a Japan-specific item that is no longer available for sale through our web site. If you are looking for a cockpit solution, I recommend checking into PlaySeats. They make a wide range of products that can fit into most budgets, and they are designed to work well with our wheels.

      -Chris

  • Canadian buyers: Update on my previously posted Canadian availability date: previously my online order’s ETA from a Mississauga, Ont. source was 10/28. Today it has changed to 11/11. Add 2 more weeks. Not looking good. If anyone in Canada has found a source please let me know.

  • hi , will this shifter and wheel work with 18 wheels of steel games ? im a big fan of the game and your controlers , it would add some much more realism to the game being able to shift and not have to press buttons on the keyboard . thanks

    • Hi mat,

      The wheel should work for driving, as the games support DirectInput wheel controllers, but to the best of my knowledge they do not support the clutch or the six-speed shifter.

  • Thanks for the canadian update, what price did you order it ?

    Im hoping the canadian price will be the exact same as the US one, else I might have to drive down to the US to buy one which would suck. I guess Ill have to wait an extra 3-4 weeks now to know.

  • ok thanks and sorry if i comment 2 times or 3.
    look i got problem on the logitech g25 the gear box didnt was so good and my english is not good so i didnt understand the reviow so my question is
    the gear box on logitech g-27 is good now or batter?please answer me fast thanks.

    • Hi roy,

      I’m not sure I understand your question. We have made several improvements to the G27′s shifter over the G25′s – particularly the centering spring force and the engagement feeling – but I don’t know what you’re looking for when you say “better”.

      -Chris

  • $310.00, close enough to the lowest US price I’ve seen. Best Buy and Future Shop (Canada) are still selling the G25 for around $360 online, so I doubt the G27 price will be much different. I suggest you go to Cendirect.com (a Canadian company) and get your order in asap, no charge until they ship. I have a feeling there’s going to be a shortage, and if you’re like me you want it NOW!
    PS – New ETA as of the 16th is now 11/05, better than the last update.

  • Thanks for the infom that store is very close from home, I might save the shipping there. I checked the only place I found it listed is : http://www.swiftgamers.com/ for 293$ (CAD).

    As for the stock. I was checking bestbuy stock in the US. It seem to be in stock in most store I looked at. Not sure about that shortage.

    Not much to do than wait for the canadian shipment (except building my pvc cockpit in the meantime :)

  • Gee … On the cendirect.com home page, go to search and type in nothing but G27, you’ll get a list of 6 items, it’s the last one. If you type in Logitech G27, you’ll get 0 results. Strange.

  • Dear Chris Pate:

    People is having a problem playing GT5 Prologue for PS3 with G27: with GT5 the sequential paddles works only when you turn the shifter to sequential mode, but this is not possible with G27.

    When G25/27 aren´t wheels officially supported by GT5 Prologue, has this a solution?. This could success with future titles also.

    Thanks.

    • Hi G. de Fronsac,

      GT5:Prologue was released before we finished developing the G27, so it does not know how to handle the G27. It thinks the G27 is a G25 when you plug it in. This means the G27′s paddle shifters behave the same way in GT5:Prologue that the G25′s do when the G25 is in sequential shift mode. We anticipate that the final version of GT5 will work correctly with the G27′s paddle shifters.

    • Hi BroKen LiZard,

      Logitech is not licensed by Microsoft to make a force feedback wheel for Xbox 360, so the G27 cannot work on that platform.

  • Thanx STU,
    it is funny because, when you go to the french site, it does not find the g27 when you enter “G27″ in the search, but in the english site it works.
    :P

  • GEE … Let us know when you finally get one in your hands, same with the other Canadians who read this blog. Something’s not right with having to wait a month or more for something that’s available right now right across the border. I’ll bet the situation would be a lot worse if GT5 was still going to be released in ’09 as we had expected. And speaking of GT5 … if the paddle shifters don’t happen to work with it when it’s released (as in Prologue), what are the chances of Polyphony Digital patching the game so that they do? There’s nothing that Logitech can do about it if they don’t, guess we’ll just have to wait and see. And speaking of waiting …

  • Hi Chris,

    can two or more players race against each other using different wheels connected to the same platform base? (only 1 base & no broadband connection)

    Example of set-up:

    - Game : rfactor, Gran Turismo, Formula 1 championship…
    - wheels: one G25 & one G27 connected to a single PC or PS3
    Could this work?

    If yes, would it also work for 5 players assuming game supports it?
    Would there be a hardware limit to the number of players who could race against each other in such a setup?

    Many thanks and all the best :)

  • dough! … I just realized each player would need their own screen and perspective lol

    k, scratch that (guess LAN is the way to go for multiplaying)

    or maybe a single console can be configured to assign each screen their own perspective?

    I reckon that option is not yet available right?

    Kudos galore for your great wheels

  • I just bought a G27. New to racing.
    Does one need to step on the clutch when changing gears?
    It doesn’t seem necessary when i am playing need for speed:shift or GT5P. Is there a prob?

    • Hi hobbs,

      The clutch and shifter on the G27 only send input data to the system. There is no physical lockout mechanism tying the clutch to gear shifting on the shifter module. Unless the game you are playing models forced clutch use, you will not really have to use the clutch to shift gears in that game.

    • Hi Stu,

      Until GT5 ships it is not really possible to know what its final feature set will be. Since GT5:Prologue does not require it, however, it’s a safe guess that GT5 will likely not require the user to use the clutch for shifting either.

  • Hi Chris,

    assuming a dual-screen PC setup powerful enough to allocate each racer his own monitor, would it be possible to connect two G27 simultaneously to it so that two players could race against each other without the need for a second PC?

    Many thanks :)

  • Dear Chris,

    Saw your comment on the G27 being detected as a G25 in GT5 Prologue. At the moment, the paddle shifters don’t work at all for me in GT5P, whilst the G25 method of pressing the ‘triangle’ button (i.e. top black button on the gearshifter) to activate the clutch pedal also does not work. Any hints on getting the G27 working like the G25 did in GT5P? I’d be most grateful if you could help, thanks in advance!

    PS> the G27 is awesome. works beautifully in NFS Shift. Keep up the good work !

    • Hi Ken,

      What you are describing is due to the way GT5:P handles the G25 in six-speed mode. There is no way to modify the way that GT5:P interacts with the G27 without an update to GT5:P.

  • Hi Chris,

    could two G27 be connected and operated simultaneously on a Dual-Display PC setup running a multi-player game?

    Cheers :)

  • I saw the G27 specs stating it uses two sets of solid steel ball bearings, the G25 wheel doesn’t use solid steel ball bearings?

    • Hi Ken,

      Both the G27 and the G25 use two sets of steel ball bearings to support the shaft of the wheel.

  • Hi Chris,

    Thanks for your reply. I actually managed to get the clutch working now – i just need to remember to leave the shifter in-gear when the game starts and the system is initialising/calibrating the steering wheel – after that, pressing the triangle button will enable the clutch as with the G25. oh well, hope Polyphony Digital staff are buying G27′s too – maybe you guys can send them a free sample. haha! :)

    cheers :)

  • Hi Chris,

    is it possible to use two G27 on a single PC with dual-display (1 monitor per racer) or does each G27 require a dedicated PC?

    Thanks for your time :)

  • Hi.
    I’m a very happy G25 owner from Portugal and looking forward for the upgrade to the G27 when it arrives.

    Only sorry for the lack of sequential shifter…

    1. is it possible to use the G25 shifter with G27 wheel + pedals ?
    2. Do you know when it will be available in Portugal?

    Thanks,
    Carlos!

    • Hi Carlos V,

      The G25′s shifter will not function when attached to the G27. I don’t really have a way to say if or when the G27 will be available at retail in Portugal. It is available for distributors to order from our European warehouse, so if and when they order it you should be able to get it at retail. You may also be able to order it online, but again I cannot say for certain.

  • I May Give Up about buying the G27 Wheel, because It’s been release for a while in the U.S. and we can’t find a single unit in Canada because it is still not available.
    Just bored to be waiting…

  • Hi Chris, any news on a release date in canada… was supposed to be october 28, now we’ve heard november 5 or 11 …. I want to play and stop waiting !!!

    • Hi Etienne,

      It’s pretty difficult to arrive at a specific date for availability in a particular country. Availability depends on many factors, including when we receive them in our warehouse, when the distributor orders them from us, and when the retailer orders them from the distributor. Transit times and customs delays can vary as well, making determining an exact availability date a very inexact science. From what I know right now, early to mid November seems like a reasonable timeframe for G27 wheels to be available for sale in Canada. My recommendation is to check with Best Buy or Future Shop, as they are likely to have the most up-to-date information on when they will be receiving wheels from their distributor.

  • Can you explain why Mac drivers for the G25 and G27 aren’t available? I love playing ToCA Race Driver 3 on my Mac and I want the best possible wheel. Will Mac ever be supported?

    Many thanks in advance.

    • Hi M.K.E.,

      Because we have a finite amount of resources to put into any project, and because we haven’t really seen much in the way of customer demand or racing game developer support for the Mac, we haven’t made the choice at this point to support Macintosh for our force feedback wheels. The landscape is constantly changing, however, and we are always monitoring it. We’ll take your request into consideration when we work on our future plans.

    • Hi GinoR,

      If a game does not support the clutch feature at all, there is no way for an end-user or Logitech to force it to do so. Similarly, if the game does support a clutch but does not force the user to press the clutch in order to shift, there is also no way for the end-user or Logitech to force it to do so. In both of these cases, this functionality would require an update to the game from the game’s developer.

  • I am in a whellchair .I cannot use my feet. Is it possible to shift gears and break with the steering .

    thanks

    • Hi Richard,

      The G27′s paddle shifters are buttons, not analog axes. They can be mapped to throttle and brake functions in some games, but you will only get full throttle or full brake if that is the case – not a very good racing experience. If you are a PS2 or PS3 racing fan, the Driving Force Wireless wheel has analog paddles that can be used for throttle and brake. If you are a PC racing fan, there is not currently a Logitech racing wheel available with analog paddles.

  • Canada update, it seem (if you trust cendirect web site) that they date moved from the 5 nov to the 9 december 2009 for canada shipments.

    (One source still say 12 november).

  • Can you list the latest games where you need to use the clutch to shift? Playing GT5 to much might make me forget to use the clutch in my real car.

    • Hi Chris,

      If you enable the clutch feature in GT5:Prologue by pressing the Triangle button before the race starts, it should force you to use the clutch to shift. Otherwise, the only games I know of that has the option to force clutch use (or incur damage to the transmission) are Need for Speed Shift (with damage on) and the PC game Live for Speed.

  • … or Dec. 2 … or when hell freezes over … this is beyond ridiculous, I’ve had my order in for over a month and it’s been delay after delay. At this rate I’ll get GT5 before I get a G27!

  • Just received this from cendirect … “Logitech pre-announced this product (As they usually do to stimulate year-end sales) and now just keep moving the ETA date backward – It is probably because their production cannot meet demand – Typically they give first priority to their domestic (USA) market.” They didn’t give me a shipping date, but it looks like we’ve got ANOTHER month to wait. Another source told me they could ship Dec. 2, not sure if that’s 2009 or 2010. I give up.

  • That s**** I to have preorder it, and have some “gaming reunion” plan during november with my friends coming down to see me, Still don’t have a wheel to play with ! Someone should know the real shipping date for this wheel to Canada. It’s a shame that no one is willing to let us know when it will be available. I’m sure they know the real date. It really is annoying that it can be bought in the US but not here in Canada, I will soon go with the Fanatec wheel if I can’t have this one… I just can’t believe that they continu to push the release date… i’m really mad rigth now !

  • My latest email from cendirect:

    “PRODUCT: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel

    The requested product is in constrained supply. Virtually all incoming stock has already been committed to customers that have placed orders in our system. There are only a handful of units still not sold.

    If you have any reasonable expectation of receiving this product we strongly suggest placing an order ASAP.”

    I predicted earlier there was going to be a shortage for Canada, looks like that is going to be the case. I’m hoping my order will be filled Nov. 18th, if not I’m giving up on video games and will be spending the rest of my days in a monastery.

  • Hey, im looking forward to getting the G27 for Christmas. But the only racing games i have are Midnight Club LA, GRiD, and NFS Shift (i have a PS3). Are all these games compatable with the G27? If not then what about the G25? Thanks!

    • Hi Chris,

      All of those games will work, though because they were released before the G27 was available it may be that not all features (including RPM LEDs) will function correctly. Additionally, in Midnight Club LA the paddle shifters do not appear to work correctly for the G27 though they do work on the G25. The G27′s steering, pedals, shifter, and force feedback all work in all of these games, though.

    • Hi John,

      Due to the way the Xbox 360 works, it is extremely unlikely that the G25 or G27 will ever work on that platform. The way the console is designed from a controller perspective is very different from the way that the PC, PS2, or PS3 are designed, and it is not possible to modify unlicensed controllers to make them compatible without Microsoft making a significant change to the Xbox 360′s operating system.

  • Happy with my G25 shifter and pedals. Pretty happy with the G25 wheel for that matter. Would consider upgrading to the G27 wheel if the wheel was available separately. Will it be?

    Cheers,
    Simon

    • Hi Simon,

      There are currently no plans to sell the G27 wheel separate from the pedals and shifter, and it is highly unlikely that there will be. Additionally, the G25′s shifter will not function if plugged into a G27.

  • I have no idea why you keep ignoring my question…
    It’s a genuine question and I believe I’ve kept a respectful in all of my inquiries.
    I tried googling for an answer but to no avail.

    Anyways, cheers and all the best.

    • Hi Andy,

      Multiple G27′s can be plugged into the PC at the same time, but I do not know of any games that allow for split-screen racing on the PC.

  • 379,99$ at bestbuy, they just got them in stock, whats wrong with them ? How come its not 300$ like online store and the us ?

  • Cancel my order with buy.com and went to BEstBuy pointe-claire in montreal, price matched buy.com so in all with taxes.. cost me 322$ yeah baby!!! that was the only one in stock there. regards

  • Etienne can you send me a copie of your invorse (facture) so best buy in hull will credit me if you paye lest in montreal thanks I paye $379 in Hull,Que

  • Hi Chris

    Why didn’t you modified the pedals “upsidedown” so they’ll feel like real pedals… Keep that in mind for future updates.

    • Hi Rick,

      Thanks for the suggestion! This is something I’ve wanted to do for quite a while, but there are significant engineering and size challenges associated with doing so. The structure required to make a “hanging” system stable is pretty large and costly, so for now we’ve opted to go with the traditional push-down type of pedal.

  • Chris, I am looking at buying my father the G27 for Christmas. He and I have been racing sim for about three years now with the Logitech DFP wheels. Have been very impressed with that wheel for the money. We have recently made the acquisition to rFactor on Pc, from Toca 3 on ps2, and we love it. Now my question is that we are very used to driving with the sequential shifter on the DFP and I am concerned that if I get him the G27 he might have some difficulty getting used to the clutch, and six speed shifter. What would you recommend as I am finding difficulty locating any G25′s. In addition do you know if there is force clutch options with rFactor?

    Please advise with any suggestions and have you had anyone else concerned regarding the removal of the sequential shifter.

    Thanks and all the best!
    Kevin

    • Hi Kevin,

      RFactor will automatically engage the clutch when you switch gears with the G27′s shifter. To my knowledge there is not a way to completely disable this. If your father prefers shifting without the H-pattern and clutch, or if he wants to drive cars that use a seven-speed gearbox, the paddles behind the wheel can be assigned for use as shifters within the game.

  • Hi
    I planned to buy a G25 for playing Formula One™ Championship Edition
    on PS3 and RaceOn/Race07 on PC. But when reading about the G27 I would rather go for that wheel.
    But I can’t find (on the Logitch-homepage) if the G27 is compatible with these games or not. Can you help me?
    Best Regards
    /Mattias

  • I have been using this wheel for a week know and wow what a work of art. It’s a must for any sim-racer . I am playing GT5prologue on PS3 and loving it. At first i hated GT5p cause i could not control any cars then i brought home the G27. That is what the G27 did for GT5p. You can find it at best buy on sale for $250 and if you buy it now best buy will price match for 30 days even black Friday sales. If you dont already have the G25 then be good to yourself and the G27 if you don’t care about the sequential shifter then go for the G27. I’ve been wanting the G25 for years now and when i felt the shifter on the G27 it felt a little more smoother than the G25
    5 out of 5

  • I recently bought a g27 and it is cool. Although, I’ve had trouble getting the LED’s to turn on during gameplay. The game I”ve been playing is Need for Speed “Shift”. Is this something you need to turn on using the game options menu? Do I need to download this feature from a data disc? Please reply if any suggestions.
    P.S. maybe this guy Vorn can help me, being that I bought it at Best Buy and that’s where he works and everything.

  • Hi Chris,

    Sorry if this was already asked before. How do I make the rpm/shift indicator leds work on NFS Shift (PC or PS3 platform)? Can you please name some games that this feature works with, I would want to try this out.

    Thank you in advance!

    • Hi Richard,

      The G27′s RPM LEDs are not supported by Need for Speed: Shift. Some PC games do that support the LEDs are Race 07 and rFactor. More PC and PS3 games are under development with RPM LED support, and there may be patches developed for some existing titles that will support them as well.

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